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C/C++ was my first prog. language...

Now, any other language is easy to learn..

I don't understand neither the point or meaning of this post...

me too... lol.. :)

Then we have something in commen :cool:

Once you are good in 1 language, you can easily shift over to other new ones by association. The only thing that matters is the associability of old languages learnt & new ones.

Try learning BASIC (not Visual) full with GOTOs after learning C++. :D

So, so ...
I mind i'm the right direction...
C language come harrassing me since I decides come to programming world... (few months ago)
good luck to ME!

:)

Originally posted by pbelasco
good luck to ME!

:)

Good Luck! to YOU! :)

Practice a lot too!

Has anyone ever noticed how wierd some people, in these forums, are? ;)

Try learning BASIC (not Visual) full with GOTOs after learning C++.

I've tried to do that in different order. It didn't work - I'd trade ten classes for one function, even if it has GOTOs and numbered lines in it.



Has anyone ever noticed how wierd some people, in these forums, are?

Just look out of your window (if any) and you will see that we are perfectly normal whereas everyone else is weird ... ungeeky ... unable to win Minesweeper in Novice mode in less than 10 seconds!

And to think I was worried about my Minesweeper skills...

Try to learn perl then C/C++. You'll think the people who wrote the C syntax were sadistic monsters out to get you and your program! I'll kill for a foreach() in C!

Originally posted by Ctb
And to think I was worried about my Minesweeper skills...

Try to learn perl then C/C++. You'll think the people who wrote the C syntax were sadistic monsters out to get you and your program! I'll kill for a foreach() in C!
Try to learn Python and then any other programming language, you'll think everybody except GvR is a sadistic monster. :D

The very first thing I had to learn to program (not counting QBasic when I got my very first 486sx 33Mhz Win3.1 PC) was HyperCard (anyone remember that) way back (3 years ago :D ) as a senior in High School (did you know parantheses are totally unnecessary). 3 Programming classes that semester, only one room that contained Macs in the entire school... and I wind up in that class learning HyperCard :rolleyes:. I don't think I've EVER seen that ANYWHERE but in that classroom!

Hmmm.... I dated myself pretty well in that post but I wonder if I dated old or young? :cool:

I would say you dated your self on the younger side of things. ;)
There are some here who are up there in the age bracket, but I would guess that most here are 20's to 30's.

As far as languages go, C/C++ is great for me. Try using COBOL and you will welcome C/C++ to program in. :D

What exactly is Cobol for anyhow? Is there actually a use for it outside of mainframe programming? I never understood what exactly it's for...

I saw a Cobol textbook once and I about had a fit! That cannot be a whole lot of fun to wade through!

COBOL is most effective for generating reports, and yes it is a pain to wade through. I hate column alignment!

Hi All,
I am kinda surprised that nobody mentioned Pascal as yet. I learnt Pascal in high skool and hated it back then. But after looking at some of the code snippets floating arnd now a days , i find Pascals structured style of writing very appealing, not only for readability but writability too. So lrng it first sets u in the rite direction, i think.
Wot say......

DA
:cool:

Pascal, like BASIC is a good stepping stone to learning the fundamentals of programming. Most schools teach Pascal now as the beginning language instead of BASIC I believe.

Pascal is plain ugly. Its syntax is incosistent, Borland's compiler and IDE are both stupid (the debugger is even worse) and trust me that it is well possible to write extremely unstructured code in Pascal - that's what I'm seeing at school.

We've got a Win 2k network with Gigahertz clients and are programming in a language that is simply dead - except at schools. Would anyone of you mention knowledge of Pascal to a potential employer?

BASIC is even more useful because programs can be written without bothering about useless stuff - compare:


{ Pascal }
program foo;

var a, b, c : integer;

begin
readln( a );
readln( b );
readln( c );

writeln( "Middle value: ", ( a + b + c ) / 3 );

readln;
end.



' Basic

input a
input b
input c

print "Middle value: ", (a + b + c ) / 3;

input

I haven't checked the syntax, but hope you get the idea - in Basic, only the actual code is written. In Pascal, you get lots of useless stuff extra.

Originally posted by realnowhereman
and trust me that it is well possible to write extremely unstructured code in Pascal - that's what I'm seeing at school.

We've got a Win 2k network with Gigahertz clients and are programming in a language that is simply dead - except at schools. Would anyone of you mention knowledge of Pascal to a potential employer?

Ok, what do you expect from school. You aren't going to see much well structured code from people that are learing. That is something that comes from experience and time.

Who would mention knowledge of pascal? Pascal is as usefull as basic in that it is a good tool to start you down the path the learn with, but not to write well structured applications. Granted, every once in a while you find someone doing something in basic. But then again, you have people who program in delphi, which is not much more that a beefed up pascal.

It all boils down to you have to start somewhere. Basic and Pascal are good places to start, just don't stay there.

You have to start somewhere, and I think where you start determines what you feel is the best thing to start with. Alright, yeah, I had to do some BASIC in middle school and I did some QBASIC at home back in the days of DOS 5, but then I hopped right into HyperText which is a C-wannabe type of language. I hated all of them, except QBASIC because it was fun to play with.

I muddled around with HTML and became proficient at coding pages by hand in Notepad back when the only WYSIWYG was HotDog. Then, when I learned about JavaScript I started the whole copy and paste thing. It wasn't until a few months ago that I decided to open up my copy of Programming with Perl and seriously dive in that I actually became deeply interested in programming. Now, here's why I think perl was the best thing for me to learn:

Community.

Man, the perl community is weird, but it's EXTREMELY helpful. When I started I had no idea even what less was, I couldn't get back into insert mode in VIm to save my life, and if you asked me to grep something I'd think it was some sort of nasty prank. Now, just three short months later, I'm finishing up a "password protection" scheme with perl at work for our Intranet that is totally maintenance free in normal conditions (since I am the only one of the two developers / admins of the Intranet that knows per). All because I had the support of the community and the massive amount of docs. I can use Linux as an average user, and I'm going to go back into C/C++, work on some Java, and maybe learn Python just for fun :)

But, that's just me...










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